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Welcome to The Portland Civic Wiki. This is an unofficial wiki of Portland. This wiki is meant to help enable the citizens of the Portland Metropolitan Area be able to better connect, take part in, and improve their communities. So welcome; poke around, edit, try some stuff out, and have fun. Thanks. Michael

Great Logo!

Nice work on this! Best, MarkDilley

Thanks! It's not necessarily final, so let me know if you have any suggestions for improvement. -Kotra 02:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Thanks for the encouragement, Kotra! I'll probably be adding a lot of historical details when I get the time... the sort of stuff that might be a little too specific for Wikipedia. If I'm available on Jan. 6, I'll try and come to the Wiki Wednesdays! Khris.soden (talk) 01:59, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

(replied at User talk:Khris.soden) -kotra (talk) 19:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you're liking what I've been doing! I'm happily free from my office this weekend, so I'm hoping to add quite a bit more content! Khris.soden (talk) 19:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


Can you provide advice regarding categories? I've been wanting to develop that tag, but I'm not very familiar with Wikis. Specifically, I'd like to include neighborhoods into a category, but I don't know how.

  • Actually, I think I figured it out. Any advice would still be appreciated!
Ok cool Khris! Here's my reply I wrote already, in case you find it useful. Categories are sort of confusing at first but simple once you figure them out (I've actually been figuring them out just today, making a few mistakes by making unnecessary redirects and such as you might have noticed). Basically, all you have to do is add [[Category:Foo]] (where "Foo" is anything you want) to a page, and the wiki places the page into that category, "Foo" in this case. Once you've saved your change, you can then click the category link at the bottom of the page (labeled "Foo") to see what other pages are in that category. If it's a redlink, you can also write a little blurb on the category page explaining what goes in that category, or even make that category a sub-category of another category by doing the same thing on the category page. I hope that isn't too confusing, but it probably is the way I said it. -kotra (talk) 06:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Kotra! That was good information... I'm very new to all of the coding, but I'm really excited to be working on this project! Khris.soden (talk) 19:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, wikicode is not very intuitive. I will start a help page on this. -kotra (talk) 02:30, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Oops, forgot to mention, I did that: Help:Categories. -kotra (talk) 17:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion template

Riffing off your discussion template here - thanks! Best, MarkDilley

Neat! I made that for this wiki so people could better advertise discussions that need input, sort of like Centralized discussion on Wikipedia. Glad to see it being used! -kotra (talk) 17:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

scary transclusions

for InterWiki and image trnasclusions - Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding ~~ MarkDilley

reply about Wikipedia etc.

Hi kotra, sorry for the belated reply to your comment on my user page. I fully agree about your concern about Wikipedia articles being subject to subtle influence by persistent POV-pushers (I'd say, either by carefully-planned execution, or as an accident of the editing process, in different cases). Freshly back from Wikisym, my first thought is that it might be a good idea to engage in some dialog with a researcher about this; I suspect a formal study would be a good step both in getting a clear grasp of how this works, to do some thinking about what to do about it; and also, just in raising awareness about the issue.

By the way, some Wikimedia Foundation folks will be in Portlnad this week for OSCON, and I'm suggesting they visit the Monday Meet. Hopefully you'll get the chance to meet some of them, they're great folks. -Peteforsyth (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem Pete. Regarding research, I think that would be useful, but I don't know if I have the time/energy to coordinate it with a researcher. Wikipedia has become less of a serious pasttime for me lately, more of an occasional hobby (doesn't stop me from whining from the sidelines though ;) ).
I look forward to meeting them! Thanks for connecting them to us. -kotra (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Dave's Media Wiki Updates

Hey Kotra,

Didn't check my email (thus didn't see your message) until I had already installed the latest Media Wiki beta (mediawiki-1.16.0beta3.tar.gz), which apparently duplicated your efforts from a few hours earlier. Sorry.

Right now I'm having issues getting the pics to show up in the new installation. Moved over the images directory from the old version, but no luck. Will try to investigate later.

In the meantime, I'll keep "live" the installation I just did and let you decide whether or not to roll it back. Hopefully you'll spot something (regarding the no-show images) that I'm missing.


-dave myers

PS: The rollback directory on the server (the version of the site that was live before I installed the beta code) is this: portlandwiki.orgBK

Thanks! Responded in email. -kotra (talk) 08:25, 20 July 2010 (PDT)

Two things--

You've probably noticed, but I see two issues with the site:

  1. When I go to I see a redirect from "Portland Wiki" to "PortlandWiki" -- rather than being fluidly redirected there. (I suspect there's a MediaWiki page or a config file somewhere that needs to be updated to just contain a direct link to "PortlandWiki" -- but I don't know where it is!)
  2. Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Hood lead to 404 errors -- I think it must have something to do with the "." in the name, because all other pages (even redirects to those) appear to work fine.

Thanks for working on removing the extra /wiki/ in the URL :) -Peteforsyth (talk) 08:19, 20 July 2010 (PDT)

Thanks Pete!! I got both of these issues fixed I think. You're right, it was all controlled in the ".htaccess" file in the root directory, which I had altered to make the short URLs work. But I used some code that broke "."s and ":"s in page titles (and apparently made the main page "Portland Wiki", still scratching my head on that one), so I used a different method, and it seems to be working now.
Yeah, the /wiki/ was gone before now actually (since last November or something when I made the switch) but I just updated the version of MediaWiki to the new beta (so we can use the Vector skin as a basis for PortlandWiki's skin, as well as so we can get the new WikiEditor editing interface). In installing the new version of MediaWiki we had to redo all the changes we made over the months, and I guess I didn't do the "Short URL" thing the same this time. One problem we were having before today was that &s in titles didn't work... that's fixed now though!
Anyway thanks again! If you see any other issues please drop me a line. -kotra (talk) 08:49, 20 July 2010 (PDT)
Oh sorry, I thought I had replied to this! That all sounds great. Thanks for doing all this! I just made a software suggestion at the "community portal" too. -Peteforsyth (talk) 08:24, 28 July 2010 (PDT)